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Our Interview With Los Angeles Times Healthcare Columnist About Handling Hospital Bills. It’s Complicated!

Tuesday, February 5th, 2013

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Keith is a former TV investigative reporter. People often called him to help resolve their problems. Some complaints were baseless. Some he resolved behind the scenes. Others led to on-air special reports. Now we sometimes share our consumer experiences, knowing others likely have faced similar situations. We also believe sharing these stories is part of the essence of social media.

A family member unexpectedly went to the hospital for three days. Afterward, it wasn’t the hospital that sent us the first bill. Instead a medical group we were not familiar with mailed us an invoice for hundreds of dollars. We assumed the medical group had provided a service in the hospital, but the invoice did not itemize the services. It listed a total price.

After making two phone calls, I reached someone at the medical group and explained I did not understand what the bill is for. She said she would mail me an itemized statement.

Why didn’t the medical group send me an itemized statement in the first place? Will the itemized statement provide enough details to help me understand the bill? How will I know if someone actually provided the services stated on the bill? I took some notes while visiting the hospital, but I wasn’t there 24 hours a day keeping track of everyone who walked in the patient’s room.

Matters turned more complicated when the hospital itself sent its own bill, which also was not itemized. We asked for an itemized bill and visited the hospital to get doctors orders and nurses notes. The hospital told us we need to visit another office if we want someone to decipher our bill line by line.

Spending money to ensure a loved one is healthy may be the most important money anyone can spend. Good doctors and nurses provide one of the most important services on the planet. But while working as a TV investigative reporter, viewers called me with complaints about billing errors and other hospital disputes. A hospital may provide great service, but how do you know if it’s charging a fair price?

For insight, I interviewed Lisa Zamosky, a consumer healthcare columnist for the Los Angeles Times and the author of WebMD’s Health Insurance Navigator blog. She also is working on a book about health insurance and reform. Click here for more information.

Q. How well are hospitals doing when it comes to sending patients accurate bills and bills that patients can easily understand?

A. I don’t have any statistics or studies to offer a true assessment of hospitals’ performance with regard to bills. Generally speaking, however, patients are baffled by the bills they get, including the volume of bills and paperwork they receive, as well as their complexity. It’s hard for people to figure out what they actually owe.

Q. What steps should people take to negotiate their hospital bills?

A. Probably the best thing to do is to be proactive about bills. If your procedure is elective, do your legwork in advance and try to understand what your costs will be before you step foot in the hospital. Here are some other steps to consider:

  • Be aware that some sites of care are pricier than others – hospitals generally cost more than outpatient centers, for example.
  • Talk with your insurer about where you’ll get the best price and confirm that both the facility and the doctor are in your plan’s network.
  • Be clear in advance about your co-pays, deductibles, what is and isn’t covered. Talk with your doctor about who else will be treating you in the hospital, and that you’re concerned about receiving treatment and bills from providers not contracted with your insurance company.
  • Check your bills carefully to make sure each service was actually performed, that you weren’t double billed and that it generally appears to be accurate.
  • If you have a dispute, put it in writing, and clearly outline each item you’re disputing and request that the inaccurate charges be removed or that a written response with documentation to support the charges be sent to you.
  • Get your insurance company involved, if you have coverage. Ultimately, mistakes cost them as well, so see if you can get their assistance in fighting the errors.
  • Get your doctor involved. Ask him/her to walk you through the charges. If your doctor has admitting privileges at the hospital, he or she may be able to advocate on your behalf.
  • If you are a self-pay patient, you should be aware that a handful of states have laws limiting how much hospitals can charge patients who pay for care on their own. Check with your state’s department of insurance.
  • Negotiate: unpaid medical bills are frequently sent to collections agencies by hospitals and physicians. At that point, the provider accepts about 25% of the total cost of the bill. If you can pay cash, you can use this knowledge to your advantage to lower the price. Just don’t ignore your bills. Once they go to collections, they can ruin your credit. Most hospitals will give you about 90 days to pay up before taking action.
  • Contact a patient advocate organization such as Health Advocates or Medical Billing Advocates of America if you have a huge bill and need help. Also, if you get your insurance at work, talk with your benefits department. They may be able to help and there may be other work-based resources you’re not aware of.

Q. Why are hospital billing errors common?

A. There are a number of possible reasons. One is that there are many different people involved in taking down information and documenting your treatment– doctors, nurses, intake workers, etc. There is a lot of opportunity for coding and other mistakes to occur. Also, there are often different doctor groups treating people while they’re hospitalized, each with different responsibilities and different billing departments and different insurance contracts. Coordination among all the moving parts is generally lacking.

Q. What should patients know about hospital bill review companies?

A. I assume you mean patient advocate organizations that work with consumers to help sort through bills and negotiate for a better price. If that’s the case, there are a few things I would suggest:

  • First, it’s good to know that they exist and that there are experts available to help – many people aren’t aware that they can get assistance negotiating hospital bills and fighting charges.
  • Many large and mid-sized companies offer these services to employees as a part of their benefits package. If your company does offer patient advocate services, you can get help sorting through your bills and fighting inaccuracies free of charge. Ask your human resources/benefits department about it.
  • If you approach one of these organizations on your own, be aware that they take a portion of the amount they save you – I believe 30% is common. If you have a big bill or multiple bills, it’s often well worth spending the money. It may not be, however, if your bill is not that large. You have to weigh the pros and cons of paying for help.

Q. What’s your take when some people in general label hospital bills outrageous and unfair?

A. I think sometimes they’re right. It depends on the situation, of course, but no doubt hospital bills are often outrageous. And, all too frequently, they contain errors.

Q. Can patients look up the going rate in their areas for medical services and if so, what exactly should they do with such information?

A. Yes, consumers can look up cost information and use it to negotiate for the best possible price on care.

Just keep in mind that prices of medical procedures, doctor visits and surgeries have been historically tough to get. And because of the fragmentation I mentioned in my earlier answers, it can be difficult to truly pin down a price. Doctors, for example, often don’t even know what they’re paid for a procedure because the price varies depending on the type of insurance a person has.

But there is a big emphasis these days on making costs more transparent, particularly as a growing number of people are covered by high deductible health plans and are paying for more of their own care out of pocket.

Insurance companies and large employers offer price comparison tools that you can use before going in for a particular procedure, and they’ll tell you which hospital and/or doctor will give you the best price. Remember that prices for the same procedure among health care providers can vary greatly.

And there are a host of free cost calculators.

Here are some sources for looking up medical procedure costs:

· Fair Health (fairhealthconsumer.org).

· Healthcare Bluebook (healthcarebluebook.com).

· Health in Reach (healthinreach.com)

· Hospital Compare (www.hospitalcompare.hhs.gov).

Among the data this tool offers is Medicare rates for a number of procedures. Add 25% to 50% to get a fair private market rate.

· New Choice Health (newchoicehealth.com).

People should first understand what a fair price is for the procedure they need. Then, ask up front what the price for your care will be. Unfortunately, this isn’t often an easy question for providers to answer, but try to pin down a price as best you can. Then use the amount you find on the cost calculators to negotiate for a fair price. If you can pay cash, you may be able to get the best deal.

A. When patients request an itemized statement for medical services, how do they know those services were actually provided? It isn’t practical for some patients to write down notes every time someone walks in their hospital rooms. Can patients request doctors notes and other records to ensure they received all the services on a statement?

A. You’re right. It is hard. You can ask a friend or loved one to help keep track (although I realize this isn’t always practical). But after a hospital stay, you should always request an itemized bill that outlines each individual charge that comprises the total cost of your stay. Compare that against what you know took place in the hospital.

For example, in the case of an operating room charge, check the length of time stated against the anesthesiologist’s records. People are often charged for more time than the room was actually used.

Q. Are medical groups and hospitals open to providing records? Are they required to? Will they charge a fee? In hospitals, patients often don’t have personal relationships with “hospitalists” and other personnel and can’t discuss these issues directly. 

A. These are two distinct issues. One is an itemized bill from the hospital, which outlines each item and service for which you’re being charged. Often you’ll get a bill that isn’t itemized, so you need to request that so you can see exactly what makes up the charges.

Then there is the issue of medical records. It is your right by law to gain access to your medical records, and yes, you can be charged a fee for it, within reason. A good resource for learning the details about your rights to gain access to your records and how to get a hold of them can be found at Georgetown University’s Center on Medical Record Rights and Privacy.

For Consumers: Two And A Half Months Of Polite Persistence Saved Us More Than $90

Monday, September 10th, 2012

For Consumers:  Polite Persistence Saved Us More Than $90

 

  • June 12:  I call a company and explain someone took the top off its equipment in our front yard by the street. The customer service representative tells me she will notify the correct department to fix the problem.
  • June 18:  I call the company back and explain no one fixed the equipment. The customer service representative tells me no one put in a work order to fix the problem. He says he put in a work order.
  • June 24:  I email someone I know at the company. I explain I noticed that after someone came out to fix the equipment, he removed one of our plants from the ground and left a lot of dirt in a riverbed of rocks nearby. I ask the company to look into the matter.
  • June 25:  My contact at the company emails, thanking me so much for bringing this to her attention.  She is so sorry the employee did not leave our property in the condition he found it. She says please accept her apology on behalf of the company. “Even if the plant did impede his work space I’m sure there was a better way to handle the situation.  I will follow-up with the appropriate departments with regard to this situation and get back to you by Wednesday. Again, thanks for giving us this opportunity to address this.”
  • June 26:  A man from the company’s claims department calls. He says he will look into the matter. He indicates the technician may have had the authority to remove the plant if it was within three feet of the equipment. I explain I’ve lived in this home many years. The plant was in the same location for years. Technicians have worked on the equipment many times over the years. None of those prior technicians removed the plant. If the claims department determines the plant was within three feet of the equipment, prior technicians obviously didn’t consider this a hard and fast rule. I understand rules are rules, but sometimes you take steps to do what’s best for everyone involved. Also, I’m not sure why the technician would have left dirt from his digging in our river rocks.
  • July 16:  My contact at the company tells me the technician says he did not remove a plant that was next to the equipment and the plant disappeared after he worked on the problem. I explain that scenario is a strange coincidence and is hard for me to believe.
  • July 17:  The claims department supervisor calls. We can’t determine with certainty who took the plant, but he agrees to resolve the issue by mailing me a check for $90, the amount a local nursery estimates it would cost to send someone to replace the plant.
  • Aug. 2:  I call the claims department supervisor, asking when I should expect to receive the check.
  • Aug. 9:  The claims supervisor calls, saying he is checking with accounting on the status of our $90 check. He thinks we should have received it by now.
  • Aug. 14:  I call the claims department supervisor, asking when I should expect to receive the check.
  • Aug. 27:  I call the claims department supervisor, asking when I should expect to receive the check. He calls back, saying someone mailed the check but no one cashed it. He either will have someone mail it again or post a $90 credit to our account.  He calls back a second time, explaining the company posted a $94.50 credit on our account.

For Consumers: A Second Phone Call Saved Us More Than $900

Sunday, September 9th, 2012

For Consumers:  A Second Phone Call Saved Us More Than $900

Earlier this year, a plumber visited to check out a problem. The price to fix it was steep. Three reasons prevented us from calling a second plumber for another quote:  1) We already paid a service fee for the plumber to visit. Calling a second plumber would cost a second service fee. 2) The plumber was capable of fixing the problem then and there. We needed a quick fix. 3) Scheduling a second plumber would require research to find someone trustworthy. We decided to pay the steep price.

Recently, an air conditioning repairman checked out our AC. It worked but generated an unusually loud noise. The AC company earned high marks with consumers and once won an ethics award. We had hired the same company before. The repairman explained the problem. However the situation was different. We paid a service fee, but he didn’t have the parts to fix the problem. We didn’t need a quick fix and we knew a second, reliable option.

His office called back later and quoted a price of more than $1200. The price was steeper than the plumber’s earlier in the year. We had a choice to make. If we called a second repairman, we would pay a second service fee. One of those service fees would be money we would not get back. On The Flip Side, if the second quote was simply $100 less, we would ultimately save money despite paying two service fees. We made a second phone call.

To make a long story short, repairman number two determined we did not need to replace as many parts as repairman number one recommended. Even if both companies assessed the problem the same way, repairman number two’s quote still was lower. We hired repairman number two to fix the problem. The price difference was staggering! Our fee? $300! That is more than $900 and 75% less than repairman number one.

We lost the $75 service fee we paid to repairman number one. But arithmetic shows making a second phone call paid off.

Media Training: Bill Clinton Shows Businesses Why They Must Address Their Critics

Wednesday, September 5th, 2012

Media Training:  Bill Clinton Shows Why You Must Address Your CriticsAfter I left TV news, one of the first videos I put together was for an animal shelter. The shelter told me it suffered from misconceptions about the conditions of their animals. I edited the video and showed it to a colleague for review. He criticized the video for addressing the concerns about the animals. He recommended against reminding people of the “problem.”

I disagree. The video must address the problems and provide answers. The video’s purpose is to find new people to adopt those animals. The video must convert opinions and transform them. If you don’t address the critics, the viewers walk away with the same doubts they started with. Without addressing your critics, you’re simply speaking to your supporters. You’ve already got their votes! You want the votes you don’t have!

Many businesses don’t address the criticisms they face. They put on smiling faces and come up with clever lines. They hope those gimmicks are enough to persuade people to ignore the naysayers. Sometimes the approach works. However, sometimes the approach only makes one particular target audience happy … and that audience is the one already in your pocket.

On behalf of President Obama at the Democratic National Convention, former President Bill Clinton, as if checking off a to-do list, addressed one by one the political criticisms of the current White House. Clinton even spent a chunk of time directly discussing the biggest anchor weighing down Obama:  the economy. Some media experts may have advised not talking about the economy. They may have argued “Let’s not remind them about that. Let’s focus on better achievements.” That plan doesn’t work.

Yes, you want to fire up your base. But most of your base will vote for you. Everyone in the convention hall likely will vote for you. That’s not your target audience. Your target audience:  the people not in your corner. You know what they hear. You know how they feel.  Hit the pink elephant in the room head on. Don’t pretend she’s not standing there. Everyone is thinking it.

You may quibble with some of Bill Clinton’s facts or analysis. You may dislike the man himself. That’s not the point. The point is this:  If you want to win and if you want to make more money, one of your key goals is to convert the hearts and minds of those who simply don’t get you. And that works whether you’re running for president or running a little animal shelter.

For Consumers: Ask Questions Before Paying For It

Monday, August 27th, 2012

For Consumers:  Ask Questions Before Paying For It

When I reported on TV, the station often gave me a couple of hours to air a story on a complicated subject I knew little about. During interviews, I didn’t feel dumb asking questions to help simplify the subject into its most basic form. For me, getting even the smallest detail wrong was not an option.

However, I realized, for example, when a mechanic explained what was wrong with my car, I often didn’t ask him to define the problem in a language I fully understood. I believe my questions fell silent because society expects men to be born with a basic understanding of how automobiles or, for that matter, any mechanical device works. Then again, both men and women seem to often fear their series of questions will reveal ignorance and bring about embarrassment. Other times, people don’t directly answer our questions (either intentionally or inadvertently) and we let them escape, feeling too awkward to ask again. We hand over money not fully understanding what broke or our range of options to fix it.

So when the air conditioning repairman dropped down from our attic and recommended I replace both my motor and its squirrel cage, I ensured I asked questions as if someone had just transported me from a time without central air. I naturally wonder if my line of questioning and follow-up requests for clarification imply I don’t trust the man providing the answers. But staying ignorant to save face and ego will never pay off.

People will work to their advantage your lack of knowledge. Conduct research. Ask questions as if you’re putting together an investigative report. Follow up when answers don’t make sense. Share your situation with friends on social media. And don’t rush decisions until you’ve carefully thought the scenario through.

Viewers who made quick, uneducated decisions often called me, the TV reporter, to save them. You can save yourself. And if your questions appear to irritate the person providing service, perhaps that’s because you’re about to save money.

Maybe Video, Social Media And Media Relations Shouldn’t Be A Numbers Game

Thursday, May 17th, 2012

Maybe Video, Social Media And Video Shouldn't Be A Numbers Game

 

A media relations and video production client argued these services are part of his overall effort to build his brand, spread the word about his business and position himself as a leader in his field. He is less concerned about crunching numbers to calculate how appearing on television or posting video on his website directly impacts his bottom line. In fact, he doubts such concrete calculations exist. This philosophy reminds me of why business people wear sharp suits or top-notch outfits. The conventional wisdom is such clothing impacts their image, especially when meeting potential new clients for the first time. However, I find it highly unlikely someone could determine how much more business someone obtains by wearing a fancy suit versus a raggedy T-shirt. People don’t ask for such statistics. They simply understand looking good is a strategic part of the overall package.

Many applications offer analytics to help us determine how various efforts truly impact our business. Some analytics come with cool titles. Others offer numbers that appear relevant but some of us aren’t exactly sure what they mean. It’s like someone is building a road in the right direction, but we’re not actually clear if it will get us where we want to go. Perhaps these applications employ top secret formulas above our understanding. But maybe some of these analytics are more marketing than mathematics.

Sometimes simple anecdotal information is the most rewarding. One day, while visiting the office of the client referenced above, some people calling in said they scheduled appointments after watching the website’s new video. The client learned this using a simple formula:  When the new clients called, his staff asked “How did you hear about us?” Also, the video has received a large number of hits. That’s more eyeballs on his business although we don’t know if those hits turned into paying customers. This same client now is on the first page of Google. But he told me he’s not sure if that’s translated into more appointments.

A media relations client says after his story appeared on television, he received 20 leads. He simply set up a formula asking people how they came across his company.

Another video client says it’s no coincidence the company’s website visits significantly increased after posting two videos. He declared the videos brought an immediate and positive impact. He wrote: “Well, from this end there is the tangible measurement of web traffic increase after the release of each video … Tons of anecdotal stuff … which I feel is the best.”

If you read blogs and browse social media, it’s clear some of the public has an obsession with a concrete equation to determine how services such as video, media relations and social media directly translate into making money. On The Flip Side, some companies that provide these services also appear obsessed with trying to deliver that formula. I remain skeptical. I read a case study in which a company argued on its website how its digital services directly impacted a business’s sales. But even after reading this well-written case study, I’m not sure I’m buying the connection.

Sometimes, companies must simply use common sense to determine whether a technique is working for them. The answer may not be 1 + 1 = 2. But you might just know success when you see it.

Public Relations: Handling Customer Emergencies Part 2

Thursday, January 26th, 2012

In our first blog Public Relations:  Handling Customer Emergencies, we explained our encounter with a bank after depositing cash into an ATM but getting no receipt. The money at first was not deposited into our account.

We have two updates. As promised, the temporarily lost money was credited to our account by the crack of dawn. And when we returned to the bank today for the first time since the incident, a bank teller in the drive thru said “Hi Keith.” We looked at each other in the car, taken aback a bank teller remembered us. We don’t remember a teller ever beginning one of our bank visits with a “Hi Keith.” She then asked if the ATM accident was resolved.

Now that’s personal service and a nice touch.